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every season i put out the best batch o&#8217; comments that i&#8217;ve found in the last few months.  this edition may be my best yet!
Kirk Wilson

To say that the earth is only 6,000 years old is the mathematical equivalent of saying its radius is only 28 feet. 

PZ Myers on an evolution-inspired school t-shirt:

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<h3>every season i put out the best batch o&#8217; comments that i&#8217;ve found in the last few months.  this edition may be my best yet!</h3>
<h3>Kirk Wilson</h3>
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<h3>To say t<strong>hat the earth is only 6,000 years old is the mathematical equivalent of saying its radius is only 28 feet. </strong></h3>
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<h3>PZ Myers on an <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/scienceblogs/pharyngula/~3/rK_oSkoUWts/missouris_shame.php">evolution-inspired school t-shirt</a>:</h3>
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<h3>Evolution is not a religion, no more than sky-is-blueism or gravityism or medicine or mathematics or their shop class. Would they shut down an auto repair class if an Amish family decried their heathen English ways? Pollitt is a pandering moron.</h3>
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<h3>John Remy (from<a href="http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/09/08/the-top-five-reasons-why-im-not-turning-in-a-letter-of-resignation-to-the-church/"> this personal, well-written post</a> on his LDS ex-communication ritual):</h3>
<blockquote><p>Hopefully we’ll see each other as complex humans, worthy of compassion.  [there's a lot of wisdom in these words!]</p></blockquote>
<h3>George Hrab:</h3>
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<h3>Is sex with your clone gay or just extroverted masturbation?<span id="more-604"></span></h3>
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<h3><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Provo-UT/Bean-Life-Science-Museum/19993784275?ref=mf">Bean Life Science Museum:</a></h3>
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<h3>It is physically impossible for pigs to look up into the sky. Take a moment to look up today, otherwise you&#8217;re no better off than the pigs.</h3>
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<h2><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/1192.html" target="_blank">Frank Moore Colby</a></h2>
<blockquote><p>Every improvement in communication makes the bore more terrible.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1393">Steven Novella</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Medicine that works is simply “medicine” – everything else needs marketing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oscar Wilde</p>
<blockquote><p>only the shallow are deep enough to truly know themselves</p></blockquote>
<p>Various anonymous quotes, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ld4luz">via</a>: <strong> </strong></p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t understand the purpose of the line, &#8220;I don&#8217;t need to drink to have fun.&#8221; Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and sticks when they&#8217;ve invented the lighter?</p>
<p>Have you ever been walking down the street and realized that you&#8217;re going in the complete opposite direction of where you are supposed to be going? But instead of just turning a 180 and walking back in the direction from which you came, you have to first do something like check your watch or phone or make a grand arm gesture and mutter to yourself to ensure that no one in the surrounding area thinks you&#8217;re crazy by randomly switching directions on the sidewalk.</p>
<p>-Is it just me, or are 80% of the people in the &#8220;people you may know&#8221;  feature on Facebook people that I do know, but I deliberately choose not to be friends with?</p>
<p>Do you remember when you were a kid, playing Nintendo and it wouldn&#8217;t work? You take the cartridge out, blow in it and that would magically fix the problem. Every kid in America did that, but how did we all know how to fix the problem? There was no internet or message boards or FAQ&#8217;s. We just figured it out. Today&#8217;s kids are soft.</p>
<p>There is a great need for sarcasm font.</p>
<p>I think everyone has a movie that they love so much, it actually becomes stressful to watch it with other people. I&#8217;ll end up wasting 90 minutes shiftily glancing around to confirm that everyone&#8217;s laughing at the right parts, then making sure I laugh just a little bit harder (and a millisecond earlier) to prove that I&#8217;m still the only one who really, really gets it</p>
<p>I would rather try to carry 10 plastic grocery bags in each hand than take 2 trips to bring my groceries in.</p>
<p>I think part of a best friend&#8217;s job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die.</p>
<p>The only time I look forward to a red light is when I&#8217;m trying to finish a text.</p>
<p>I have a hard time deciphering the fine line between boredom and hunger.</p>
<p>Answering the same letter three times or more in a row on a Scantron test is absolutely petrifying.</p>
<p>Whenever someone says &#8220;I&#8217;m not book smart, but I&#8217;m street smart&#8221;, all I hear is &#8220;I&#8217;m not real smart, but I&#8217;m imaginary smart&#8221;.</p>
<p>What would happen if I hired two private investigators to follow each other?</p>
<p>While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it&#8230;thanks Mario Kart.</p>
<p>MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.</p>
<p>Shirts get dirty. Underwear gets dirty. Pants? Pants never get dirty, and you can wear them forever.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember the last time I wasn&#8217;t at least kind of tired.</p>
<p>Whenever I&#8217;m Facebook stalking someone and I find out that their profile is public I feel like a kid on Christmas morning who just got the Red Ryder BB gun that I always wanted. 546 pictures? Don&#8217;t mind if I do!</p>
<p>Why is it that during an ice-breaker, when the whole room has to go around and say their name and where they are from, I get so incredibly nervous? Like I know my name, I know where I&#8217;m from, this shouldn&#8217;t be a problem&#8230;.</p>
<p>You never know when it will strike, but there comes a moment at work when you&#8217;ve made up your mind that you just aren&#8217;t doing anything productive for the rest of the day.</p>
<p>Can we all just agree to ignore whatever comes after DVDs? I don&#8217;t want to have to restart my collection.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always slightly terrified when I exit out of Word and it asks me if I want to save any changes to my ten page research paper that I swear I did not make any changes to.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do not machine wash or tumble dry&#8221; means I will never wash this ever.</p>
<p>-I hate being the one with the remote in a room full of people watching TV. There&#8217;s so much pressure. &#8216;I love this show, but will they judge me if I keep it on? I bet everyone is wishing we weren&#8217;t watching this.&#8217;   It&#8217;s only a matter of time before they all get up and leave the room.   Will we still be friends after this?&#8217;</p>
<p>I hate leaving my house confident and looking good and then not seeing anyone of importance the entire day. What a waste.</p>
<p>When I meet a new girl, I&#8217;m terrified of mentioning something she hasn&#8217;t already told me but that I have learned from some light internet stalking.</p>
<p>It should probably be called Unplanned Parenthood.</p>
<p>I keep some people&#8217;s phone numbers in my phone just so I know not to answer when they call.</p>
<p>Even if I knew your social security number, I wouldn&#8217;t know what do to with it.</p>
<p>Even under ideal conditions people have trouble locating their car keys in a pocket, hitting the G-spot, and Pinning the Tail on the Donkey &#8211; but I&#8217;d bet my ass everyone can find and push the Snooze button from 3 feet away, in about 1.7 seconds, eyes closed, first time every time&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if cops ever get pissed off at the fact that everyone they drive behind obeys the speed limit.</p></blockquote>
<h2><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/23561.html" target="_blank">Laurence J. Peter:</a></h2>
<blockquote><p>Speak when you are angry&#8211;and you will make the best speech you&#8217;ll ever regret.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><em>Homer, 9th century BC:</em></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>There is nothing more admirable than two people who see eye-to-eye keeping house as man and wife, confounding their enemies, and delighting thier friends.</p></blockquote>
<h3>PZ Myers, on &#8220;<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/the_five_best_arguments_for_cr.php">the five best arguments for creationism</a>&#8220;:</h3>
<blockquote><p>This makes no sense at all. These are supposed to be the five best arguments for creation <em>instead</em> of evolution, and the author has trotted out the stale old excuses that evolution has no evidence and that the earth is young…and now he demurs, and suggests that maybe the book of Genesis is just some sloppy poetry, don&#8217;t take it literally, don&#8217;t take it too seriously? That&#8217;s an argument <em>against</em> creationism.</p></blockquote>
<h3>good ones from my friend Weston&#8217;s FB:</h3>
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<blockquote><dd>&#8220;People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character.&#8221; &#8211; Ralph Waldo Emerson&#8221;It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.&#8221; &#8211; Carl Sagan</p>
<p>&#8220;I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.&#8221; &#8211; Winston Churchill</p>
<p>&#8220;Right and wrong are judgments, not realities&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For there is nothing either good or bad, thinking makes it so.&#8221; &#8211; William Shakespeare</p>
<p>&#8220;No one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of the truth&#8221; &#8211; Gandhi</p>
<p>&#8220;The basis of our life is freedom, the purpose of our life is joy&#8221;  &#8211; Abraham/Hicks</p>
<p>&#8220;Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.&#8221; &#8211; Nietzsche</p>
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<p>&#8220;If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.&#8221; &#8211; Albert Einstein</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[today i was doing some research on Multi-Level-Marketing companies (e.g. MonaVie, Noni, Isagenix, NutraSkin, etc.).  living in utah county, (the most MLM-dense county in the USA) we&#8217;ve all been presented with MLM pitches- and we may have even signed up for some.  last year i met an older couple who had made tons of money [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=markii.wordpress.com&blog=517925&post=613&subd=markii&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>today i was doing some research on Multi-Level-Marketing companies (e.g. MonaVie, Noni, Isagenix, NutraSkin, etc.).  living in utah county, (the most <a href="http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/RecruitingMLMs-Utah.htm">MLM-dense</a> county <a href="http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/Utah_hotbed">in the USA</a>) we&#8217;ve all been presented with MLM pitches- and we may have even signed up for some.  last year i met an older couple who had made tons of money in Vegas through a MLM they had done in the past.  The secret, they told me, was that the company marketed them as their golden couple and stuck dozens and dozens of people below them in their &#8220;down line&#8221; so everyone could see an exemplar of success.  they were very up front when they told me that they could not recreate those same earnings when they tried to do it <em>on their own</em>, after the successful MLM went bankrupt (as most do).  they even knew all the tricks of the trade and had experience- but it went nowhere when their only potential down line suddenly shrunk to the small number of friends and family they personally knew.</p>
<p>Note:  please use caution when sharing anything with someone who is involved in a MLM.  they very much act like &#8220;<a href="http://www.skepdic.com/truebeliever.html">true believers</a>&#8221; in the sense that they have faith in the potential of their MLM, are motivated more by feelings/personal testimony rather than hard evidence, and may take criticism very personally.  so proceed w/ caution when sharing with others- or don&#8217;t share at all.</p>
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<li>from a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#Criticism_of_MLM">wikipedia article</a> (emphasis mine):</li>
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<p>The <a title="Federal Trade Commission" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission">Federal Trade Commission</a> (FTC) issued a decision, <em><a title="In re Amway Corp." href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Amway_Corp.">In re Amway Corp.</a></em>, in 1979 in which it indicated that multi-level marketing was not <a title="Illegal per se" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_per_se">illegal <em>per se</em></a> in the United States. However, <a title="Amway" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway">Amway</a> was found guilty of <a title="Price fixing" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing">price fixing</a> (by requiring &#8220;independent&#8221; distributors to sell at the low price) and making exaggerated income claims.<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-inreAmway-15"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p><strong>The FTC advises that multi-level marketing organizations with greater incentives for recruitment than product sales are to be viewed skeptically. The FTC also warns that the practice of getting commissions from recruiting new members is outlawed in most states as &#8220;pyramiding&#8221;</strong>.<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-FTC-9"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup> In April 2006, it proposed a Business Opportunity Rule intended to require all sellers of business opportunities—including MLMs—to provide enough information to enable prospective buyers to make an informed decision about their probability of earning money.</p>
<p><strong>Another criticism of MLMs is that &#8220;MLM organizations have been described by some as cults (Butterfield, 1985), pyramid schemes (Fitzpatrick &amp; Reynolds, 1997), or organizations rife with misleading, deceptive, and unethical behavior (Carter, 1999), such as the questionable use of evangelical discourse to promote the business (Hopfl &amp; Maddrell, 1996), and the exploitation of personal relationships for financial gain (Fitzpatrick &amp; Reynolds, 1997).&#8221;</strong> <sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p>MLM&#8217;s are also criticized for being unable to fulfill their promises for the majority of participants due to basic conflicts with Western culture.<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-18"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a></sup> There are even claims that the success rate for breaking even or even making money are far worse than other types of businesses:<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-taylor2002-19"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-20"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a></sup><sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-21"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a></sup> &#8220;The vast majority of MLM’s are recruiting MLM’s, in which participants must recruit aggressively to profit. Based on available data from the companies themselves, the loss rate for recruiting MLM’s is approximately 99.9%; i.e., 99.9% of participants lose money after subtracting all expenses, including purchases from the company.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-taylor2002-19"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup> In part, this is because encouraging recruits to further &#8220;recruit people to compete with [them]&#8220;<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-22"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a></sup> leads to &#8220;market saturation.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-23"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p>Similar claims regarding profits have been stated by The Times (&#8220;The Government investigation claims to have revealed that just 10 per cent of Amway’s agents in Britain make any profit, with less than one in ten selling a single item of the group’s products.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-24"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a></sup>), high level &#8220;Emerald&#8221; Amway member Scheibeler (&#8220;UK Justice Norris found in 2008 that out of an IBO [Independent Business Owners] population of 33,000, &#8216;only about 90 made sufficient incomes to cover the costs of actively building their business.&#8217; That&#8217;s a 99.7 percent loss rate for investors.&#8221; <sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-25"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a></sup>(case referred to is BERR vs Amway (Case No: 2651, 2652 and 2653 of 2007) which does list this as one of the points of objectionability: &#8220;c) because of the requirement that an IBO pay a joining and renewal fee and the likelihood that an IBO would purchase BSM there was a certainty that the Amway business would cause a loss to a large number of people (to the extent that out of an IBO population which exceeded 33,000 only building their business).&#8221;) and <strong>Newsweek (where it is stated based on MonaVie&#8217;s own 2007 income disclosure statement &#8220;fewer than 1 percent qualified for commissions and of those, only 10 percent made more than $100 a week.)</strong>&#8221; <sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing#cite_note-26"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a></sup></div>
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<li>Here is a short article from the Federal Trade Commission that i also recommend reading:  <a href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/invest/inv12.shtm">http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/invest/inv12.shtm</a></li>
<li>and here is a longer article from a canadian lawyer and former mormon (&#8220;formon&#8221;) bishop:  <a href="http://mccue.cc/bob/documents/rs.multi-level%20marketing%20and%20mormonism.pdf">http://mccue.cc/bob/documents/rs.multi-level%20marketing%20and%20mormonism.pdf</a></li>
<li>my own experience<a href="http://markii.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/super-antioxidant-crime-fighting-fruits/"> in an MLM</a>.</li>
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<p>hope this might help in some way!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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stephen hawking, der spiegel (17 october 1988):
we are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. but we can understand the universe. that makes us something very special.
Saki:
A little inaccuracy sometimes saves tons of explanation.
Gerry Spence:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>a little late in posting this, but here goes!:</p>
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<p>stephen hawking, der spiegel (17 october 1988):</p>
<blockquote><p>we are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. but we can understand the universe. that makes us something very special.</p></blockquote>
<p>Saki:</p>
<blockquote><p>A little inaccuracy sometimes saves tons of explanation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gerry Spence:</p>
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<dt>I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief.</dt>
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<p>fred doyle:</p>
<blockquote><p>Space isn&#8217;t remote at all. It&#8217;s only an hour&#8217;s drive away if your car could go straight upwards.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Tri-fecta of doubt&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vZW4ud2lraXBlZGlhLm9yZy93aWtpL0NhcmxfU2FnYW4=">Carl Sagan</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.</p></blockquote>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vZW4ud2lraXBlZGlhLm9yZy93aWtpL01hcmNlbGxvX1RydXp6aQ==" target="_blank">Marcello Truzzi</a>:</strong></em></p>
<blockquote><p>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.</p></blockquote>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vZW4ud2lraXBlZGlhLm9yZy93aWtpL1BpZXJyZS1TaW1vbl9MYXBsYWNl" target="_blank">Pierre-Simon Marquis de Laplace</a></strong></em></p>
<blockquote><p>The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/p/paulbert234239.html">Paul Bert</a> :</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><span class="body">Modern societies march towards morality in proportion as they leave religion behind.</span> </strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/l/louispaste389299.html">Louis Pasteur</a><br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><span class="body">When I approach a child, he inspires in me two sentiments; tenderness for what he is, and respect for what he may become.</span> </strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/charlesric234285.html">Charles Richet</a><br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><span class="body">I never said it was possible. I only said it was true.</span> </strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size:x-small;"><span><em><strong><span class="bodybold"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan147833.html">Jean Rostand</a> </span></strong></em></span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body">I should have no use for a paradise in which I should be deprived of the right to prefer hell.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan147841.html">Jean Rostand</a></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body">In order to remain true to oneself one ought to renounce one&#8217;s party three times a day.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Publilius Syrus:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have often regretted my speech, never my silence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dale McGowen (author of <em>Raising Children Beyond Belief</em>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Much of the protest over “nonbeliever” is that it defines us in terms of religious believers. I care about this no more than the fact that “nonsmoker” defines me in terms of smokers and “non-idiot” defines me in terms of idiots. You don’t find many <em>non sequiturs</em> up in arms about being defined in terms of the hated <em>sequitur,</em> nor are the nondescript or noncommital often irate about comparisons to the descript and commital.</p>
<p>Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. seemed not to find their advocacy of nonviolence diminished by the lexical negation of violence. Nor does <a href="http://www.nonviolentpeaceforce.org/" target="_blank">Nonviolent Peaceforce</a>, the nonpartisan, nonprofit NGO (that’s “non-governmental organization”) for which I work. For each and all of these terms, the prefix is a non-issue.</p>
<p>So why do we continue to waste our pique on such terms as “nonbeliever” and “nonreligious”? I find them both useful and economical. Pile on your polysyllables and modifiers as you wish. I have things to do.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan162018.html">Jean Rostand</a></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body">Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conquerer. Kill everyone, and you are a god.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan161867.html">Jean Rostand</a></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body">Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="body"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan147820.html">Jean Rostand</a> </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body"><span class="body">The divine is perhaps that quality in man which permits him to endure the lack of God.</span> </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="body"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanrostan147852.html">Jean Rostand</a> </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body">When a scientist is ahead of his times, it is often through misunderstanding of current, rather than intuition of future truth. In science there is never any error so gross that it won&#8217;t one day, from some perspective, appear prophetic.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="body"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alexisdeto132499.html">Alexis de Tocqueville</a> </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="body"><span class="body">Consider any individual at any period of his life, and you will always find him preoccupied with fresh plans to increase his comfort.</span> </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="body"><span class="body">He was as great as a man can be without morality.</span><br />
<span class="bodybold"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alexisdeto378150.html">Alexis de Tocqueville</a> </span></span></p>
<p><span class="body">History is a gallery of pictures in which there are few originals and many copies.</span><br />
<span class="bodybold"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alexisdeto105749.html">Alexis de Tocqueville</a> </span></p>
<p>Slayer (lyrics):</p>
<blockquote><p>Holy man open up your eyes<br />
To the ways of the world you&#8217;ve been so blind<br />
As the walls of religion come crashing down<br />
How&#8217;s the ignorance taste the second time around</p>
<p>Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end<br />
Tell me what it&#8217;s like when the celebration begins</p>
<p>Welcome to the horror of the revelation<br />
Tell me what you think of your savior now<br />
I reject all the Biblical views of the truth<br />
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times<br />
I won&#8217;t be force fed prophecies<br />
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind<br />
Join the new faith for the celebration<br />
Cult of new faith fuels the devastation</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:85%;"><a href="http://www.lyricsdepot.com/slayer/new-faith.html">[Read the complete lyrics]</a></span></p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicknamed Lluc.&#160; Scientific name:&#160; Anoiapithecus brevirostris.&#160; link:&#160; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090602083729.htm&#160; artist&#8217;s reconstruction:


&#8220;The extraordinary resemblance does not indicate that Anoiapithecus has any relationship with Homo, the researchers note. However, the similarity might be a case of evolutionary convergence, where two species evolving separately share common features.&#8221;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Nicknamed Lluc.&nbsp; Scientific name:&nbsp; <em>Anoiapithecus brevirostris.&nbsp; </em>link:&nbsp; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090602083729.htm&nbsp; artist&#8217;s reconstruction:</p>
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<p>&#8220;The extraordinary resemblance does not indicate that Anoiapithecus has any relationship with Homo, the researchers note. However, the similarity might be a case of evolutionary convergence, where two species evolving separately share common features.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i encourage you and you and you (any and all who may be taking a sunday stroll across my blog) to take a gander at the most recent comment posted.  it was a response to a request i had made months ago on how to go about doing a satanic seance in such a manner [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=markii.wordpress.com&blog=517925&post=572&subd=markii&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>i encourage you and you and you (any and all who may be taking a sunday stroll across my blog) to take a gander at the most recent comment posted.  it was a response to a request i had made months ago on how to go about doing a satanic seance in such a manner that would insure the highest possiblity of attracting supernatural and evil presences.  i&#8217;ve since not really been too intrigued or interested in the possibilities (nor am i of the potential consequences of saying bloody mary 3 times in my bathroom mirror), but here is one reader&#8217;s comment- for everyone to enjoy.  i invite you to either 1) count the punctuations included in the long-winded paragraph, or 2) try to read/imagine where one would take a breath in between pseudo-scientific/fairy-talk rantings.</p>
<p>ok that was harsh but here it is in all its fear-mongering glory:</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#8217;m sure the skeptical/scientific community will add much more insight into the TV show &#8220;Lie to Me&#8221;, until then, here is what i was able to find in my short research (the following is in the format of a conversation between me my friend Keldwud):
some info on the show:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><img class="alignright" src="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2346/lietomeo.jpg" alt="" width="212" height="312" />i&#8217;m sure the skeptical/scientific community will add much more insight into the TV show &#8220;Lie to Me&#8221;, until then, here is what i was able to find in my short research (the following is in the format of a conversation between me my friend <a href="http://blog.keldwud.org/">Keldwud</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>some info on the show:</p>
<p>some people can tell when people are lying slightly better than others:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://tinyurl.com/dcxm2b" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/dcxm2b</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://tinyurl.com/dg78oo" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/dg78oo</a></strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>women are supposedly better than men at detecting lies in one&#8217;s face.  the information in those links still doesn&#8217;t show that the guy&#8217;s abilities in the movie can be seen as science-based, but it may be possible<em> <span class="il">to</span> some degree</em>.  remember, though, that polygraphs are not based on science and can be fooled.</p>
<p><a href="http://skepdic.com/polygrap.html" target="_blank">http://skepdic.com/polygrap.html</a></p>
<p>hope that helps!  as i get more info about that from the skeptic community i&#8217;ll share it with you.</p></blockquote>
<p>he replied, and i then replied to his comments (see how hard this is to follow so far?  well i don&#8217;t have the time to edit it- i&#8217;m already spending precious saturday night time so <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">deal with</span> good luck with the format  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  :</p>
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<div class="im">On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:09 PM, KELDWUD<span dir="ltr">&gt;</span> wrote:</p>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><p>Thanks for the links <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yeah, I was figuring they were basing a lot of it off of real studies<br />
but the way they were spinning it made <span class="il">me</span> wonder what parts of it<br />
*weren&#8217;t* real. A lot of it is plausible and then they make a good<br />
case by showing famous people with the same expressions as proof that<br />
they are all experiencing the same emotion.</p></blockquote>
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<div>yes, and as you and i both suspect they may be committing a post-hoc fallacy where you have lots of data (lots of pictures of faces) and you match these faces with what you&#8217;re looking for <span class="il">to</span> support your theory.  many celebrity faces are shown in one scene&#8217;s example (some 20 or so i think) but how many thousands of pictures of celebrities lying were <em>not </em>shown?  it sounds too much like quote-mining Nostradamus in order <span class="il">to</span> get an ambiguous quote that sounded like he predicted 9/11 or something else <em>after the fact</em>.  the book <em>The Bible Code</em> commits this fallacy as well:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk3VgQgxiqE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk3VgQgxiqE</a></div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><p>&#8230;The only thing that it is missing is when people show those<br />
expressions and they *don&#8217;t* mean what the others are feeling when<br />
they show those expressions.</p>
<p>Wondering how effective his technique is in real world scenarios and I<br />
am betting that his technique would produce valid hits more often than<br />
not.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p></blockquote>
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<div>this is another very good point as <span class="il">to</span> why even when someone may be generally better at telling when someone is lying, they will not be able <span class="il">to</span> read many people who react differently when they <span class="il">lie</span>.  at best, i think someone may be good at telling if people are lying if they are already familiar with the person (like in a family/friendship), or if they are women (like i said, it&#8217;s been shown that they are slightly better than males at detecting deception.from Michael Shermer&#8217;s<em> The Science of Good and Evil</em>, page 176 (emphasis mine):</p>
<div style="margin-left:40px;"><span class="il">To</span> the extent that <span class="il">lie</span> detection through the observation of body language and facial expressions is accurate (<strong>overall not very</strong>), women are better at it than men because they are more intuitively sensitive <span class="il">to</span> subtle cues.  in experiments in which subjects observe someone either truth telling or lying,<strong> although no one is consistently correct in identifying the liar</strong>, women are correct significantly more often than men .  [...] People who are highly skilled in identifying &#8220;micromomentary&#8221; facial expressions are also more accurate in judging lying.  In testing such professionals as psychiatrist, polygraphists, court judges, police officers, and secret service agents on their ability <span class="il">to</span> detect lies, only secret service agents trained <span class="il">to</span> look for subtle cues scored above chance.  Most of us are not good at <span class="il">lie</span> detection because we rely too heavily on what people say rather than on what they do.  Subjects with damage <span class="il">to</span> the brain that renders them less attentive <span class="il">to</span> speech are more accurate at detecting lies, such as aphasic stroke victims who were able <span class="il">to</span> identify liars 73 percent of the time when focusing on facial expressions (normal subjects did no better than chance).</div>
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<blockquote><p>I think it&#8217;s kind of a mixed bag, but one thing i think must be on the bullshit side are the cute little face gestures he teaches as being indicators of dishonesty.  this black/white methodology sounds <span class="il">to</span> simple <span class="il">to</span> be true, too learnable that it would easily taught and widely used today in all of the professions listed above.  it seems that the aphasic stroke victims most likely used intuition and nothing that could be listed or depicted in a textbook (ie &#8220;this curl of the lip here suggests&#8230;&#8221;).</p></blockquote>
<p>FWIW, that&#8217;s the info i could come up with so far&#8230; hope it helps someone else out in pointing them in the right direction.  good luck!  if you&#8217;re from San Fransisco, you can attend this on the subject as well:  <a href="http://www.psychologicalscience.org/convention/program_2009/search/viewProgram.cfm?Abstract_ID=15583">http://www.psychologicalscience.org/convention/program_2009/search/viewProgram.cfm?Abstract_ID=15583</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>i&#8217;m more excited to see the results of this contest than the return of Haley&#8217;s Comet!  this following challenge is the challenge i would extend to every media team, documentary maker, science teacher, etc.  make it happen, make it impactful, make it convincing!</p>
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<p>Can you communicate the most important idea in biology, and one of the most controversial ideas in our society, in a mere 120 seconds? Think you can convince even the most hard-headed creationist that Darwin was right? If so, show us—and that creationist—how it&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>Your task is to create a video of no more than two minutes that will get the idea and significance of evolution across to an educated lay audience. Along the way, you can touch on points like how evolution works, how we know it to be true, the evolution of humanity, and the future of evolution.</p></div>
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<p>i was convinced in a very short amount of time of the truthfulness of evolution while attending a biology class.  problem is, no one in xtian america will give science any more time than 2 minutes to convince them.  but the evidence is so extremely overwhelming that i am sure this is about all one needs if they are somewhat edumacated.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://discovermagazine.com/contests/evolution-in-two-minutes-or-less/">http://discovermagazine.com/contests/evolution-in-two-minutes-or-less/</a></p>
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<div style="margin-left:40px;"><strong><em>When you spend time with your family (direct or distant) for the holidays, do you have to temporarily change anything about yourself, skeptical, religious or otherwise?  Do you find yourself acting differently either for the sake of harmony or simply because that’s how you’ve always related to them (no pun intended)?  Is that good or bad?</em></strong></div>
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<p>yesterday was thanksgiving, and thus i was around much of my family. running late for dinner, i threw on a shirt out the door we fly to mom and dad’s.</p>
<p>i did not read what was written on my random shirt, however:</p>
<p><em>Rebel of Faith</em></p>
<p>it’s a cool-looking t.- a slim-you-down black, painted with those ruby-red heretic words. problem is, the ruby red caught everyone’s eyes. first was my dear 80-year old mormon grandmother&#8217;s. her eyes were better than i had imagined: “rebel of faith?”, she inquired.</p>
<p>“yes, it means rebel FOR faith”. i quickly responded. i was lying, and i was proud of my apostasy, but not to my grandma. not when she has lived a long life FOR faith. so deep was her belief in her holy fairy tale for all of these years that the very neurons and connections in her mind can never again be unwoven. critical thinking and skepticism will not squeeze through the plaque and cholesterol polluting her mind’s neural tubes.</p>
<p>it’s over. SHE’s almost over. i say go with the flow. leave her happy. let her leave happy. when i noticed i had an extra shirt in the car, i changed it for her. and by the look on my mom’s face, i could see she felt relieved as well.</p>
<p>it was just a random shirt from my closet, without any agenda meant by me. i am proud of my heresy, and proud to be a “rebel of faith”, but thanksgiving this year was of a much higher quality leaving religion aside and focusing on family.</p></div>
<p>[here are some great links on thanksgiving]:</p>
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<li>a secular astronomer&#8217;s asks &#8216;<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/">to whom should we give thanks</a>?</li>
<li>Give thanks to science!  <a href="http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=37312792242&amp;h=mjWWE">how science made turkeys huge! </a></li>
<li>Author of Parenting Beyond Belief&#8217;s <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=1280">shares a cool story from his inbox</a></li>
<li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/11/thankfulness.php">pz myers sounds off</a></li>
<li>how stuff works podcast: <a href="http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/netstorage.discovery.com/DMC-FEEDS/MED/podcasts/2008/1227126229620hsw-sysk-thanksgiving.mp3">thanksgiving</a></li>
<li>basted awesomeness:  froggy&#8217;s succulent thanksgiving recipes!  <a href="http://froggey.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/thanksgiving-feast/">pt. 1</a> <a href="http://froggey.wordpress.com/froggies-recipe-box/thanksgiving-dinner/">pt. 2</a></li>
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