Racist Quote by Abe Lincoln (Happy Black History Month!)

Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:

Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

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    • You loose

      ASDFDS

      &

      Wolf

      Cling to your comforting little liberal fairy tales about Abe’s greatness – your juvenility would be cute…if you were an 11 year old female with Shirely Temple curls. When you’re ready to join the adults at the grown up table and discuss history, we’ll greet you.

    • You people seem to forget: Yes, he was a racist for most of his life, and he was only against slavery because it gave the rich an advantage over the poor that couldn’t afford slaves, but towards the end he became good friends with Fredrick Douglas. The reason he was shot is John Wilkes Booth heard him give a speech saying that he had decided to give blacks the right to vote, to which Booth said, “That means nigger citizenship. Now, by God! I’ll put him through. That is the last speech he will ever make.” So advancing the rights of blacks is literally why Lincoln paid with his life. But no, he wasn’t the black and white figure he’s been painted as; he was much more interesting.

      • Thank you Kris for not backing off and telling the truth about Lincoln.I grew up being taught that he had the best interests of African Americans at heart.Now I know much better. I saw a documentary about Lincoln a while ago it stated that after Lincoln freed the slaves many blacks were so in awe of him that some would knee bend in front of him. If we could go back in time and show the ones who were in awe and would kneel in front of him the words above that he spoke about whites being superior and blacks being at the bottom and that blacks and whites would never live together equally, I just wonder how our past ancestors would feel about him.He was a flawed human leader so why be angry when someone tells the truth about him?

      • Historically this is a spin on the truth. Lincoln was in fact a racist. His motivation to give the slaves the right to vote was simply to win reelection. No other President prior to Lincoln would have gone to such a divisive measure to win reelection. Due to the Civil War no electoral votes were counted from 11 southern states–had that happened Lincoln may have lost with the slaves voting or not. He only won the popular vote by 400,000–which tells you how necessary the slave vote was to his reelection campaign. While Lincoln may have been the first President to consider slaves “human” publicly, he still very much went to his grave believing whites superiority. It was his desire to remain President that cost him his life, not his desire to advance the rights of Blacks. IMO there is no reason to celebrate this man in the degree to which he is celebrated. His death, tragic and unnecessary, but he was not a hero.

      • @ Jorge Maestre

        there was no slave vote. Black people didnt get the right to vote until 1870.

        And Lincoln won by 190 electoral votes.. your argument is flawed to hell.

      • @dsjj…Re-read my posts again. They did not count the electoral votes of 11 southern states because of the Civil War. That’s the only reason he won the electoral by that wide a margin. Free blacks weren’t allowed to vote until 1870, this is true. However Lincoln’s stance on the matter only changed to cave in to Political pressure. He personally believed that slavery was wrong BUT also believed that slavery was an institution in America. Numerous times he stated that nothing should be done to abolish slavery in any state in which slavery was already an institution. He simply did not support its expansion. He also stated in 1854 that he supported the repeal of the Missouri Compromise which made slavery illegal in two states because he felt that they were previously slave states. He very clearly stated that he did not believe Blacks should be afforded anything that resembled equality in the US. The man was a racist and should not be celebrated. I’ll concede my error on voting which was based on bad information but not on Lincoln. He hay have changed his views on slavery over time as President but certainly not on racism. Even founding fathers like Franklin, Washington, and Jefferson believed in equality towards the end of their life–bashing both racism and slavery. There are also numerous articles that reference a growing number of northern/southern poor whites who were against slavery simply because they couldn’t afford it. Lincoln may have shared that view coming from Illinois–which was a slave state–but growing up too poor to afford slaves.

      • @Jorge Maestre I read your comment just fine the first time, your logic does not work.

        even if all the Confederacy states had been allowed to vote, the total of those states is only 118 votes. Lincoln still wins 221 to 139. thats assuming the south did not nominate their own president like they did in the previous election.

        im not even arguing about the “was he racist vs was he not”.

        im simply talking about your math not working.

  1. This is confirmed. Lincoln was a man of his time.
    If one looks at the prevailing attitude of the time, Lincoln’s view of Blacks was the norm. He was anti-slavery…not pro-negro., that is to say, he would not put Blacks on any equal footing with his own race.
    There are countless quores from Lincoln that illustrate this.
    History continues to be re-written by those trying to make the North, and Mr. Lincoln look better…and this only makes things more muddled.
    A nation not willing to see it’s past will never be able to face it’s future.
    It is a fool who judges history, and a wise man who learns from it.

    Keep digging, America
    God Bless,
    Buttonwillow

    • I am sorry buttonwillow but have to some more research because look up thaddeus stevens and that is a real fucking hero. He did 100 times more for black negros then Lincoln so learn your fact before you say some thing

      • “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.” The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume V, “Letter to Horace Greeley” (August 22, 1862), p. 388.

  2. The last sentence is the most important its saying that he doesn’t believe blacks shouldn’t have any thing but he thinks they should have something. Most people back then were racist about 90 percent actually. Is it really appropriate to apply something that happened more then 100 years ago to the standards of today? Mr.Lincoln was a great man he fought the war to give the blacks something and because he did he died.

  3. MB you are an idiot.

    you said “Is it really appropriate to apply something that happened more then 100 years ago to the standards of today?”

    how about when the nazis were killing jews? Most of the germans rallied behind hitler like sheep. does that make a nazi guard not guilty? Because “everyone else is doing it”. Each and every person makes his/her own decisions and just because other people commit evil doesn’t make it any better for you or another person to do the same. People like you are the reason this world has no peace. you mindless piece of Sheet.

    • all right all right you try being a German during the Holocaust and not join the nazi partie they did it out of fear because if they didnt they would be killed and tortured aswell, would you not obey someone with a gun to your head, and lincoln was they greatest president of all considering the fact that most are part of a cult

    • History is written by the victors. We won so the Nazi’s were bad and evil and their acts were evil. However if the Nazi’s would have won their death camps would not be as widely viewed as evil and it is very possible that the Jews and possibly many other people may be irradicated by this point in history. If that was the case and the Nazi’s wrote the history a large majority would look back at the death camps as the norm.

  4. Don’t freak out everyone….take the quote in context with the time . History by the victors is always wiped clean to better fit in with whatever world view happens to be in vogue at the given moment . This statement by Abe would have been in keeping with the opinion of the majority at that time . Politically correct indeed….at that time anyway……….

  5. Joe I understand your point but the Germans were in a desperate situation when they rallied behind Hitler , million dollar bread…He pulled them out of what was just about a world wide economic depression….Even Woodrow Wilson stated that a WW2 was bound to happen given the afterwar policy of the victors…Geneva…..horrible horrible things take place in war but you will only hear of the atrocities of the losing side….rarely the winners….think about it…a deal was cut with the overseers of Japans unit 737…731 ? You see I can’t even remember the name of that godawful place…pregnant women were vivisected live without anesthesia for Christs sake !…These men escaped any war crimes tribunal by turning over info on these and other horrible experiments to the U.S….In war most every participant delves into what can be called evil…all the way back, not just WW2….Rome , the Huns……read about them all and try to understand how the times affected the actions of the warring factions….it is much to simple to just brand a nation evil……..

  6. This is how he felt. In FACT, he also went futher and exhausted all avenue to set up a system that when an if slaves were freed they would be shipped off to Liberia or Central America. Question….did he ever free the slaves his wife’s family owned? Answer….NO!

  7. Yes and public opinion at the time was definitely moving toward the abolition of slavery. In the United States and the world. In fact, most western countries had done away with the practice by the time the Civil War had started.

    Which is why it was critical for the North to go to war with the South (note the sarcasm). If most of the world was moving toward no slavery, the South would likely soon follow, or otherwise risk losing trading partners in the near future. However, it was a little more difficult for the South to give up the practice because their economy heavily depended on slavery. We should assume that it would therefore take the South a little longer to give up “the drug” of slavery.

    Instead of being able to persuade the South to make small progressions (e.g. higher wages for slaves, greater slave freedoms), Abe Lincoln had to go to the coup de gras and declare war. Great presidents unite countries through peaceful efforts. Abe Lincoln united a country through force. Civil War is a last option, when all other methods have been exhausted and each one a failure. Lincoln failed to persuade the South to make progressions on slavery. Lincoln was not a great president. Some of the results of Lincoln’s fine actions:

    1. Depressed economy in the South to this day. This has affected all races in the South and is evident in small and major cities alike.

    2. Suppression of states rights. This has lead to a huge national deficit as well as the mobilization of state militias to fight wars overseas.

    3. Increased racial bias in the South. Rather than let slavery run its course and let the ideology in the South evolve naturally, Lincoln’s war increased anger and bias in the South. It could be argued that blacks suffered much greater hardships for the next 100 years and still do so today because the South was not allowed to change on their own terms.

    It is clear that Mr. Lincoln was not a revolutionary thinker of his time. Many of you who support Lincoln say this in your statements. He simply was a product of his environment and swayed to the overall public opinion. If he had been a revolutionary thinker, he would have been able to avoid war.

    • Lincoln did not fight the war over slavery and never made any efforts before the war to free slaves. In fact, he only signed the Emancipation Proclamation (which only freed slaves where he had no authority to free slaves and kept those he could have freed in bondage) because he thought it would help the war effort. Slavery in the South was actually already on the decline because southerners were finding that free people working for wages did a MUCH better job than people forced to work. However, pretty much everyone was still a racist believing that black people were inferior to white people. I recommend you read Thomas DiLorenzo’s books on Lincoln: The Real Lincoln and Lincoln Unmasked. They are very informative about the time before, during, and after the Civil War.

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  9. But he qualified his statement in his belief that the white man is superior, and at the time he was, that the negro still should not be denied anything because of that. That’s at the very end in this quote. Kind of odd how you all skip over that. Maybe its you all who are the racists?

    • What makes Lincoln a racist is that he thought blacks were inferior to whites. Thinking that they shouldn’t be made slaves does not nullify that fact nor does it mean he believed he should fight for their freedom. As to the accusation of the people skipping over the end of Lincoln’s quote being racist, I don’t see how you could possibly conclude that without lacking an understanding of what racism is.

  10. Lincoln was also pro slavery. In his first inaugural address, he expressed his support for a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited the abolition of slavery: “I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service….[H]olding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.”

    He also sent a letter to the governor of each state advocating the ratification of this amendment.

    Full text of the ammendment: “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.”

    Don’t believe every thing your were taught in school. Lincoln was no hero and just as racist and pro-slavery as the southerners. Lincoln also suspended habeas corpus and jailed people who printed dissenting options. On the other hand southern text books are equally as biased. Most Southern schools teach that the Union was 100% at fault and represent the Confederates as heroes. If you really want to understand the civil war, you need to read primary sources.

    History books like to divide historical figures into heros and villains, but that’s just not realistic. In the case of the civil war, everyone involved was very much in the wrong.

  11. I a 34 year old white woman who grew up in the South (Tennessee) & was taught that Abe Lincoln was a veritable saint. No mention of the fact that he made it illegal for freed blacks to move into his home state. No mention of his plans to ship all black people to Africa or South America, & no indication that he issued the Emancipation Proclamation as a political maneuver to garner international support for the Union & not as an ideological or moral stance against injustice. The main beef he had with slavery was that it robbed poor white men of jobs. Every time I meet an African-American named Abe, I want to cry. Name your children for Frederick Douglas, Sojourner Truth or any of countless heroes of all races in the ongoing war for equality, not for a bigoted president who was one of the worst oppressors of personal freedoms that this nation has ever seen.

    • I think for most, it doesn’t matter WHY he issued the Emancipation Proclamation. The fact that he did it is good enough. He would not have won the presidency had he been running on the Abolitionist stance. They were popular but most still considered them to be religious fanatics with strange ideas about race.

  12. Lincoln was in a debate and he knew that the abolitionist position was not the most popular position in the world. So he took the Free Soil position which was basically a racist argument against slavery (or at least spreading slavery into Northern and contested territories). Whether or not this reflected his actual views is unclear. He was trying to win an election and he was running on an anti-slavery position. He needed to appeal to the voters who were less enthused with the abolitionist idea that blacks were humans who were entitled to equal rights.

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  15. As a white man married to a black woman, Lincoln can go fack himself. It’s sad we have our nation’s capital littered with racists.

  16. Who cares about the Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln turned an unjust war into a war on slavery because he wanted to keep England out of the war and from joining the South. The confederate constitution abolished the slave trade first and with that slavery would have come to a natural end.Lincoln has NO EXCUSE for starting the war.

  17. Well to sum it all up, Lincoln was against slavery but, that doesnt mean he thought blacks were equal, or that they should be granted full rights. He thought blacks were inferior just as society taught him to think, but he also knew that the idea of slavery was inapropriate and that it was an outdated and unnaceptable institution that had to be stopped at some point. I look at it like this, I dont like dogs, but i hate to see them chained up and abused, i use that analogy in reference to the way Lincoln thought about the idea of blacks and slavery

    • “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.” The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume V, “Letter to Horace Greeley” (August 22, 1862), p. 388.

  18. What we must ask ourselves is wetter Lincoln was entirely wrong or just expressed himself in a way people of today don’t like. I mean, where are the proof that blacks are equal? In crime statistics, Nobel prices, intelligence tests or historical achievements?

    • It is whether, not wetter. Also it should be “Where is the proof…” Instead of “Where are the proof….”
      Sincerely,
      Black female undergrad. Daughter of two, noncriminal black people – both of whom hold degrees (both undergard and graduate) from accredited universities. Their parents also hold degrees and fought for the Country in WW2. We are descended from slaves.

      Kindly go fuck yourself.

      • Aparently you didn’t learn to be observant when you got your degrees, notice the name “non american” for the poster whose english grammer you so quickly corrected. How many languages do you know? being black and having a college education is a rarity, perhaps why you thought it was so important to reply to Non American.

        The non americans point (I believe) is that if you looked up crime rate statistics in ethnically diverse countries you’ll find that black population % has much higher crime than white, and as far as intelligence well we can see by your last statement about what the Non American could do with himself that blacks don’t really have much of it, and if you look at education statistics it is a fact that the white population in every diverse country shows non blacks to have much higher grades and graduation rates than the blacks.

  19. Actually, Abraham Lincoln was very much pro-slavery. Here’s why Lincoln was a great political leader for the nation though. He decided to do some research and spent many nights researching the Constitution, looking over laws, how this country was formed, etc. He came to the conclusion that while slavery helped build this nation and he believed in it’s value (normal for that time), the nation was also at a point where things needed to change in order to progress. He reasoned that, for the good of the nation, slavery needed to be abolished, hence the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln had changed his views for the country. Rarely today do we see a politician who backs down from their beliefs and values and makes a decision for the good of the nation. This is why we’re in the boat we’re in now, because of decades of politicians who make decisions with their feelings, values, beliefs, or political gain. They lack the ethics and courage to do what is right for our nation. Read these books sometime for insight on how the government works. Public Sector Performance, by Richard C. Kearney. Also read Bureaucracy: What Government Agencies Do And Why They Do It, by James Q. Wilson.

  20. Abe only decided to free slaves in hopes theyd rise up against whites in the south and make it easier to conquer the south. the south was wealthy and the north was fucking greedy. so here we are today with tyranical federal govt. thanks yankees. kiss my rebel ass.

  21. Having read the ideological meaning of the statements based on Abraham Lincolns quoted saying, its within reason that the ‘Moorish’ population as they were referred to in Europe and previously in America acknowledge the hideous history of a nation that was never supposed to be. All moves made by Abraham Lincoln were for political reasons and had nothing to do with his opinion of the Moors.

    There were several reasons for the civil war but freeing Moors and Africans were not part of the reasoning though it became the purpose when written in history books. It was not in the best interest of European citizens to free moors from slavery especially given their history in Europe. I read the comment on here – and I see how any educated Americans are spouting educated lies based on books that has been misleading citizens since grade school.

    “When the lie becomes the truth, print the lie”.

    First it is most important to understand who these Negroids were if you are going to have a clear understanding why it wasn’t in the best interest of Americans to had enslaved them in the first place, but being that they did it – it become clear why they shouldn’t have been granted freedom. Now I’m going to tell you what history has denied us for many years.

    It is by no mistake that we went into Africa grabbing the Negroes that we grab and it was by selection that they were picked the way they were picked. West African didn’t sell their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters,etc … and when the Portuguese docked on the Western shores of Africa they were met with great opposition. Those who were captured in Africa were foreign to the lands that they were captured on. These foreigners were Moor who fled Europe during the ‘Renaissance’ aka ‘Rebirth of Europe’ and went down into Africa. They were original called ‘Moors’ and later became known as ‘blackamoors’ when the Arabs joined forces with them during their conquest of Europe for 700 years. At the end of the conquest of the Moors the Arabs broke from them and began to go into Northern Africa and inhabit the north – still holding the name ‘Moor’ which was not their national name. These were called the ‘Dark Ages’ of Europe.

    The Europe began to regain its power – and sovereignty from the Moors and Arab – they Moors fled back into North Africa where they tried to hide but the Portuguese had already assumed control of Northern Africa and through the annals of Pope Pius II in 1441 the Portuguese were sent on a mention to hunt down the Moors who once ruled Europe and enslave them that they may be used to build the new world.

    In the Slaves document – of South Carolina:
    http://genealogytrails.com/scar/negro_law.htm

    Section 4: reads: ” The term Negro is confined to slave Africans (The ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics, such as Lascars.”

    Negro slaves of Africa were the ancient Berbers (not the modern Berbers who assumed the name, they were simple the Arabs who joined the Moors and assumed the Moorish name after breaking off). American documentations is very clear about who the African Slaves were in calling them ancient Berbers.

    What is a MOOR based on the Etymology Dictionary:
    “North African, Berber,” late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus “inhabitant of Mauritania” (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros “black” ….

    A Moor is a Berber and a Ancient Berber was a moor in the 14th century when blacks were taken into slavery. The Moors ruled Europe for 700 years which is brings me back to case and point. You have to know why Abraham Lincoln made such a proclamation which seems to be racist in nature but isn’t.

    The Moors used to rule the Europeans nations for 700 years and by freeing the Moors as the Moors freed the Europeans the European conquered and became superior of those where were once superior. By freeing the Moors and not sending them back to Africa but keeping them in America certain laws were implemented to keep these people down and out of memory of their true origins. Why do you think the Negro population was forced to forget their names, nationalities, and religious/traditional ideologies? These people were broken down to basically nothing and stripped of their humanity which is why Abraham Lincoln said:

    “And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

    It wasn’t because he was racist – its because in his time real history was much more available then what is passed for real history today. Those where were captured in Africa were captured for a purpose – they were just snatching Negroes from Africa. They were actually paying Africans to capture these ‘Moors’ which is why many Africans still have a disdain for these Moors (African Americans) today and totally dishonor the thoughts of them calling their selves African Americans.

    Lincoln understood this – as he also knew that their were many Moor in the Americas long before Columbus or his nephew founded the new land. When other Portuguese founded America they had Moors on their ships and the Moors communicated with the Moors on the lands of the 13 colonies – and then suppressed them and enslaved them. North America only got 8 percent of the slaves during the slave trade and many of them were sent back to Liberia (Africa) many of the Moorish slaves were in America previous to the slave trade and that’s where the bulk of American Moorish slaves came from.

    True history is much more transparent then the lie – but its so much easier to hold the lie as self evident then to accept the truth.

    African American and European American have always engaged in a battle for supremacy and have been for the last 1300 years – but the irony is – they are the closes related genetically.

    • Very interesting Herman (@PattonHerman).

      I am currently in self study about “Moors”, and particularly their deep influence and service during the pivotable era of American history and the Civil War.

      Isn’t it also true that the term “Moor” was interchangeable with “black”, or “black” African (Christian or Muslim)?

      I also understand they held advisor positions and influenced the political process here, as they had during their reign and control over Europe (especially the Iberia peninsula, Spain, Italy and England).

      I’ll have to carefully read and undersatnd the slave document of South Carolina. Interestingly enough, reputable fornensics and archeological remains have “black” Africans as indigenous to South Carolina 54,000 years ago, and in South America as early as 52,000 years ago.

      • Where do clowns like you come from? Your info “FAILS” miserably! Either your another one of those blacks that thinks Christ was black too or your just another white moron believing the Jewish propaganda… Get your facts straight

      • Darpensteep: The failure was your mother’s attempt at contraceptive. Now, the entire world is burdened with your oblivious pandering to hold on to historical lies… A “Euro-peon” centrist no doubt. No wonder.

      • Is that the best you can come up with Non Pickaninny?

        You are a non-factor and incapacitated troll. Can you provide a lucid thought about the topic? Obviously not. Hurry up and die.

  22. Why is it we only give certain sacred cows the whole “he was a man of his time” bullshit to wash away his sins and atrocities but not others?

    • True. Why others desire to excuse and justify Lincoln’s piss-poor character is really amazing. Apparently, these types prefer (false) patriotism, myths and fables instead of truth and reality.

      Thaddeus Stevens and Frederick Douglass were also “men of their time”, yet without the hypocrisy and ludicris notions fueling racial bigotry… Especially considering that “white” British slaves in America during the 17th and 18th century — demarcated as a racists.

  23. some people who visit this site want to read and learn information, and not read comments from foul mouths and people who have nothing better to do in life than cuss, or curse constantly. Act your age, grow up, and you can be mad at certain things in history, just don’t take it out on others, yeish. Everyones a certain age, so act your age and spare people the foul language.

  24. This article is a piece of crap! Of course he was racist, only because of the time he lived in. Then once he saw the unruliness of racism he tried to fight for the African Americans. A racist would not do that, also everyone is trying to bash the good name of Abraham Lincoln. May he Rest In Peace and be remembered as he was a good man who fought for slavery to end, he died from helping African Americans become citizens. Could you do any better?

    • Lincoln never fought for the black man? Where on earth did you ever get such an absurd idea? He freed slaves for one reason only. The north was losing men at a rate of 4:1. Truly and unsustainable number. However if he could lure blacks to the north, which he did under the pretense of freedom, the south would be forced to release troops to the fields and produce the food necessary to sustain the war effort. By the way, history documents his intention to purge America of the black plague after the war but Mr. Booth screwed that up.

    • logical thinker:

      Please think again. Slavery in the Americas, particularly, the North American colonies/states were not only relegated to “blacks” (or African Americans).
      Here is a major fact which has been kept hidden and ignorant among the masses.

      During the 17-18th Centuries, “whites” were slaves in EVERY sense of the word, and were treated in EVERY manner as slaves, just as “blacks”. In fact, “blacks” actually owned “whites”. It is estimated that over 3300, or approxiamately 60-70 percent of “whites” in America were slaves from Eurpoe captured by the British and transported here. Although, “white” Europe, especially the Irish, Scottish and British have tried to expunge this from history, the facts have been revived. Read the book titled White Cargo, and To Hell or Barbados, and this reality will become clear.

      This brings a lot of the freedom of slaves into question, especially concerning the question of Abraham Lincoln’s [so-called] contributions of emancipation and so-called historical facts.

  25. Lincoln was a very wise and enlightened man,, everything he said was and still is true,,as time will tell…..Lincoln was not a racist he was a realist….unlike you bunch of fools!!!!!!!

  26. By today’s standards, yes, Lincoln was a racist. But here’s the strange beauty of racism: A racist will STILL see other ethnicities as part of the human race. In Lincoln’s time, black people were lucky to even be acknowledged as mere cattle, of which were still treated better than slaves. Lincoln had an extremely progressive mind as to be able to see that we are humans too, and that we deserved the same rights as anyone else. He may not have been so advanced that he could see blacks and whites living together, breeding together, and working together in harmony, but if he had been born in a later time, I’m certain he would have.

    • Sara:

      Your post is pure psychobabble and conjecture!

      Others such as Thaddeuse Stevens certainly did not share Abe Lincoln’s, Andrew Jackson’s racist (political climate of thge day).

      If you adore Lincoln, along this the rest of the lairs in history, that is one thing… so be it. But do not attempt to twist facts relevent to his opinions on race… Such pathetic trite.

      This nation certainly had no issues accepting “black” contributions from men such as Benjamin Banneker, George Washington Carver, etc. Your “mere cattle” comment / theory is really absurd, and have little idea what you are talking about.

  27. Lincoln was not a racist, he was a politician. Caleb Carmen, a long time friend of Lincoln, reported that in 1826 Lincoln “was apposed to slavery & thought it a curse to the land”. Another friend of Lincoln, Samuel Parks, said that in 1840, Abe “always hated slavery as much as any abolitionist”. Lincoln knew that if he came out as an abolitionist, he would have no hopes in becoming president. Lincoln only won 39% of the popular vote in 1860. At the time, the country just wasn’t ready for a hardline abolitionist president. He decided instead to gradually introduce abolition.

  28. Lincoln was without a doubt an abolishionist, but he also he met the definition of a racist. His feeling about slavery was consistent with an abolishionist in that he did not think one human being should own another human being. His position on the matter is not in question. Racism is defined as belief that one race is genetically, socially or intellectually superior to another race. Lincoln’s rhetoric was consistent with this definition. His plan was to expatriate the slaves as James Monroe did with the establishment of Liberia in Africa. Lincoln did send freed slaves to an island near Haiti as an experiment. The vast majority died within a year. Lincoln realized that this was not a realistic option as a result.
    If you read the Emancipation Proclamation and his letter to Horace Greely, it becomes quite apparent that Lincoln’s primary goal was to save the Union and that the abolishment of slavery was a secondary issue.

  29. What I find hard to understand was the fact that the negro was enslaved in the first place. looking forward in history surely some one could see the problems that slavery would bring to the Nation. first mistake! after emancipation the negro should have been returned to Africa, to Liberia where they could live and practice thier lifestyle. the U.S.in turn should provided tools and drsft animals and a cash stipend paid out over a period of years so they could how to save money. also establish schools for them. second mistake. as Lincoln and others knew the negro would not be able to live amoung european peoples and develop as free men, the differences were to great and the propensity for violence and the lack of a moral and spiritual base that would aid in this development was absent. religion was essentially a social occasion that provided a bit of cultural-cohesion for the negro singing and an opportunity for males to practice thier oratory skills and make some money as a preacher. eg Elija Muhhamad, ( Cecil Poole) and Reverend Farrakhan ( a former clypso singer). By not taking steps to deal with the problem of the Blacks attempting to live in a European society early on was the origin of the problems we face as a Nation. it is like we stumble from one problem to the next trying to figure out what to do with the problems we created. On the issue of the Black Man in the U.S. many options existed that would have benifited both races. that nothing was done for a couple hundred years created the worst reaction to the Black Mans who was stuck in america neither going foward or backward. the result was hostility and hatred of the Europeans (white man). whats next?

    • Tisk-tisk henery Dagnido:

      One of the most cruical flaws with your bigoted wheedling and drivel lies with the fact that the indigenious peoples in the Americas were/are “black” Africans… Not (so-called) Native American Indians.

      The only on stuck in America neither going forward or backwards appears to be YOU.

  30. What has followed by the descendants of the slaves was escalating violence directed at “whites” by Negros the more freedom the more violence that blacks directed at whites. rape of “White” women reported to the DOJ is in excess of 30.000 anually it is estimated that the true figure is in excess of 60.000 considering that many women do not report rape. the figures on white men raping black women in the U.S. is 1-0 actually O! White men do not rape black women. several leaders of the Black revolution were convicted rapists. Eldridge Cleaver, Malcom X, Elija Muhammad. Obamas mentor wrote about being a sexual outlaw. Other issues that prevented Black mobility was the differences in values from family structure, to literacy, hyper emotionalism,oral tradition that focuses on victim-hood. violence as a means of solving, mysogany is rapant in their culture and “Pimps” are considered culture heros that are part of the Oral tradition “Ice Berg Slim” and many other real life players are viewed as role models for would be players! even the fictional characters like “Dolamite” are famous for thier talents of bending women to the will vial huge endowed sex organs and his Pimp rap!.. we are 60 plus years this side of the civil rights movement and yet blacks remain fixed as victims and are reluctant to abandon the negative aspects of thier behavior from the use of foul language at school to blaming whitey for all failures ans everything that befalls them.

    • So true. I’d guess that 120 years from now (assuming America survives the Obummer presidency) blacks will still be blaming YT for all their problems. Look at their homeland especially the tribes with no white influence and you will find a people who have never domesticated an animal, never developed a common dialect, who have contributed nothing to art other than statues of black women with boobs drooping to the ground and have developed music to nothing more than a hollow log with a skin stretched over it. Oh, they have advanced architecture to a mud hut very similar to that which a beaver lives in. So much for white oppression.

  31. This quote is legitimate, but what the author got wrong here is the notion that Lincoln is not pro-negro. This statement was made during a debate, years before he decided to end slavery. Lincoln was pro slavery, and anti Negro BEFORE he became a president, and realized how wrong he was (then he became anti slavery and pro Negro.

    Get it right, you’re out of context.

  32. Lincoln was right on the money with that quote. Think what a paradise the USA would be without blacks.

    • reality time for you:

      Not only are you ignorant… “Blacks” were in the Americas long before you and those like you migrated. Go back to where-ever your descendants came from. You are free to leave, and won’t be missed or thought about. Tritely idiot.

      • “ED” the simpleton!
        Where do clowns like you come from? You obviously haven’t heard the latest have you? You “FAIL” miserably at your kindergarten story & need to go back to where you came from…

      • Darpensteep: Miseducation, lies and Euro-peon cajolery won’t save you from your twisted distorions of historical accounts. If only your parents succeeded at contraception and not failed…

  33. first, civilization as a whole have gaps of information.okay think in germany hitler made it normal to hate,well abe made it normal to think and war is a time of closed minded people.if you put that fact with the fact being open minded can get you killed,alot of people back in those days still believed in witches.so ignorance plus your parents teaching you how to hate a people can make you a bigot and yes poorer white people in those days accepted black people but just cuz you accepted something doesn’t mean you like it we all have been children plus most of history is blotted out cuz of white,asian,middle eastern,hispanic,and black supramists we really might never get the truth.

  34. my name in spanish is literally spelled out nigger in english,and if you ever saw me i’m pretty light skinned.what i’m trying to say most people dont know there racists even after it’s pointed out to them multiple times.my grandma thought that one up and yes you could say she was racist my whole family kind of is but that just proves that race supramists are the real reason white black hispanics and other races are racist toward each other pretty much if you have someone tell you your better cuz the color on your skin or ethnicity you’ll eventually believe it.the human psyche is actually extremely fragile and can be minipulated to believe anything.

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  37. The reason why Abe Lincoln was killed is because of the Kenites, Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.. THEY are the ones who brought the African slaves over here in the first place.. “SLAVES” in the definition of slaves, were supposed to be WHITE.

    The “slaves” were all WHITE, the reason being is because EVEN IF the slave owners had sex with them, their children would STILL be “PURE” White.. The Kenites KNOW this, they knew it back then.. so what did they do?.. They brought Black slaves to America.. Lincoln did NOT like it. He was against it and wanted to send them all back to Africa because of the blood line’s getting contaminated and corrupted. GOD DOES NOT LIKE MIXING… NOTHING, not plants, not animals, not linen with cotton, NOT MAN. Genetic mixing is an abomination, it is called “ADULTERY” and is one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS. “THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY” aka DO NOT MIX. And to whoever doesn’t think that God did not already cover “cheating” as one of the TEN, refer to “THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBORS WIFE”.

    THAT is why Abe Lincoln was murdered.

    The impostor Jews [Kenites] are behind everything. They SAY they are Jew, BUT DO LIE…. Tares among the Wheat.

    • Ugly women:
      You can blame the JEW for YOU, but I aint taking the blame for you idiots acting like a pack of fucking savages anymore

  38. His thoughts….In 1855, Lincoln wrote to Joshua Speed, a personal friend and slave owner in Kentucky:

    You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. … I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio, there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continued torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union. . . How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that “all men are created equal.” We now practically read it “all men are created equal, except negroes.” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics.” When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty— to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be take pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy [sic].[17]………………………………………….Summary? man cared.

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  40. Lincoln hated no one. He was a product of his time. Lincoln’s views on race related issues changed immensely over the years.

    You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other 2 races. Even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race. you are cut off from many of the advantages which the other race enjoys. It is better for us both to be separated.”-Abraham Lincoln, during a meeting with free Negro leaders, at the White House, August, 1862

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the 2 races living together on terms of social or political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion that I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position that the Negro should be denied everything.

    “. . . Notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the Negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence-the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal, and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man.”-Abraham Lincoln, debating with Douglas in Illinois, 1858

    “In all my interviews with Mr. Lincoln I was impressed with his entire freedom from popular prejudice against the colored race. He was the 1st great man that I talked with in the U.S. freely, who in no single instance reminded me of the difference between himself and myself, of the difference of color, and I thought that all the more remarkable because he came from a State where there were black laws.”-Frederick Douglas, radical black abolitionist and former slave

    “I say in relation to the principle that all men are created equal, let it be nearly reached as we can.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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